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Re: HTTPAPI calls slower in our production environment



   Scott,
   You could be right in how you're reading it.
   But assuming the DNS is an internal server and the Windows_production
   is also an internal server...it shouldn't need to go out to the
   internet and thus it shouldn't take much time.
   Maybe it's just me...but I've seen lots of mis-configured DNS setups on
   the i :)
   Charles

   On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Scott Klement <[1]sk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   wrote:

        Charles,
        If I understand Venter's message correctly, he's saying that he's
     using
        host names that are only defined in the "host table", and that on
     the
        "slow" system, it was configured to look at DNS first and look at
     the
        host table only if not found in DNS.
        If that's the case, the DNS lookup has to fail before it can look
     in
        the host table.  Since DNS is a large database distributed across
     the
        entire internet, looking up a host that's not defined in the DNS
     server
        may take a fairly long time -- and that would certainly explain
     the
        delays.
        I could be misinterpreting the message, of course.

      On 1/8/2014 8:34 AM, Charles Wilt wrote:
      Not sure that I'd call this resolved quite yet...
      DNS queries, especially to an internal server for an internal server
      name should be pretty quick.  I'd even say you shouldn't notice a
      difference.
      It sounds like the i might have an invalid DNS server setup.  My
   guess
      is that at least the first DNS server listed in CHGTCPDMN is no
   longer
      valid.  The i will attempt to query that and has to wait till the
      request times out before trying the second one listed.  If the
   second
      is invalid, it waits again before trying the third.  Actually it's
      worse than that as there's a DMNSVRRTY parm that controls how many
      times the i trys and how long it waits before trying another.
      While you are in there, make sure DMNNAME and DMNSCHLIST are
   correct.
      Charles

        On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:10 AM,
     [1]<[1][2]Venter.Derick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

      wrote:
           Hi Mike / Charles
           We found the problem.
           We can see that the AS400_TEST server is configured to first
   look
        up a
           host name in the local host table.  AS400_PRODUCTION is set up
   to
        use
           the DNS server first for a name look up.
           When we ping the WINDOWS_TEST server from AS400_TEST server  we
        get a
           quick response with the server name and no domain name at the
   end
        of
           the server name.
           When we ping the WINDOWS_PRODUCTION server from
   AS400_PRODUCTION
        server
            we get a slow response with the server name and the domain
   name
        added
           at the end of the server name.
           We re-configured the AS400_PRODUCTION server and it is now as
        fast as
           we expect it to be.
           Thanks for then help.
         Regards
         Derick Venter
         Applications Developer IV

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             From:        Mike Krebs [4]<[7][6]mkrebs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

           To:        HTTPAPI and FTPAPI Projects

          [5]<[8][7]ftpapi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

           Date:        2014/01/07 07:32 PM
           Subject:        RE: HTTPAPI calls slower in our production
        environment

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         +1 on adding timestamps. Running in all three environments and
      checking
         the differences will help to narrow down the issue. The archives
      have a
         simple change to one procedure that will be a good spot to start:


     [3][10][7][9]http://www.scottklement.com/archives/ftpapi/201310/msg0
     0080.h

        tml
         The network should not be a problem no matter what, but just to
   make
         sure the basics are covered, trace route in each environment to
   make
         sure the routing to the production box is not messed up.
   TRACEROUTE

           RMTSYS([11][10]WINDOWSERVER.COMPANY.COM)

         Another thought, in production, is work management "normal" or do
      you
         have special setup? The program making the httpapi call set up
   with
         defined activation group or *caller or *new? Any changes between
      that
         and development?
         -----Original Message-----

           From: [[8]12][11]ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
           [[4]mailto:[[9]13][12]ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
     On Behalf Of

      Charles
         Wilt
         Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 7:45 AM
         To: HTTPAPI and FTPAPI Projects
         Subject: Re: HTTPAPI calls slower in our production environment
         Do you have debug on in production by chance?
         That's the only HTTPAPI related slowdown I can think of.
         Other than that, I'd look to make sure it's not the Windows side.
      Can
         you
         call the windows service with SoapUI or maybe call the DEV/TEST
   from
         your
         production i?
         Assuming you can confirm it is the i, one thing to check would be
      the
         configuration of IP6 on production.  Users on the midrange list
   have
         reported poor network performance (granted mostly Java apps) when
      IP6
         is
         incompletely configured.
         Can you add some dsply op-codes to display time stamps (or use
   the
         debug
         message in HTTPAPI) to see if the slowdown is in the network code
   or
         your
         RPG code?  If you have performance tools, you could use those
   also.
         You might consider making sure the times on the machines are
      reasonably
         in
         sync (hopefully both are using the same NTP service) and then run
   a
         comm
         trace on both sides.  That would let you see if the network
   itself
      is
         the
         issue.
         Lastly, look at the environment where the HTTPAPI using app is
      running,
         QINTER or QBATCH?  Do you have enough activity levels?  You may
   want
      to
         try
         moving it to it's own dedicated subsystem with dedicated memory
   at
         least
         temporarily to ensure that you have total control of it's
      environment.
         HTH,
         CHarles

           On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 4:51 AM,
     [10]<[14][13]Venter.Derick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

      wrote:
         >    Hello  everyone.
         >    We are in the process of re-writing all our web service
   calls
         using RPG
         >    functions and HTTPAPI. The new web service calls are much
      faster
         than
         >    the previous technology used but have a major performance
      problem
         in
         >    our production environment.
         >    Our development an test environments (RPG web service calls)
      are
         faster
         >    than our production environment. Doesn't make sense because
   the
         >    production server is bigger, better and faster.
         >    Dev environment
         >    RPGLE function on AS400_DEV server calling a web service on
         WINDOWS_DEV
         >    server.
         >    Test environmenrt
         >    RPGLE function on AS400_TEST server calling a web service on
         >    WINDOWS_TEST server.
         >    Production environment
         >    RPGLE function on AS400_PRODUCTION server calling a web
   service
      on
         >    WINDOWS_PRODUCTION server.
         >    I am using the same test function in all environments.
         >    Any idea where to look..start...
         >    Regards
         >    Derick Venter
         >    Applications Developer IV
         >

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