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SV: Apache configuration
Henrik,
No, that one definitely deserved some harsh words, which is exactly what Scott did in his reply!
Unfortunately your post was not a reply to that specific post from Duane. Your rant was directed at the OP, Vince. While Vince had his own frustrations with making his predicament clear in a way that was also clear to the rest of us, he didn't share the opinions put forth by Duane, instead at the time of your post he had already apologized both for being vague about what he wanted and for venting his frustration in his posts.
I at least feel that your post was exaggerating in its indignation and didn't find the right target.
Let's leave it there, okay. It might be only me that feels that way.
Regards,
Kaj
-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] På vegne af Henrik Rützou
Sendt: 27. april 2012 18:02
Til: HTTPAPI and FTPAPI Projects
Emne: Re: Apache configuration
Kaj,
so you really mean that post like this (post 3 in this tread initiated by
post 2):
"Vince I agree with you completely, that are jerks out there that get
there kicks out of admonishing people. I am done with this site."
should go uncommented
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Julius Kaj <Kaj.Julius@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Henrik,
>
>
> I don't in any way question that you are a competent guy and that you have
> made significant contributions to the open source community. I also don't
> dispute that you have helped and will help a lot of people.
>
> It's only your communication skills that I question. A rant like the one
> you fired off should never make it to paper, much less to a public forum.
> You can think it all you want, of course. :-)
>
> This is a public forum where a certain decorum and understanding is
> needed. It can be aggravating to see people describe their problem so
> vaguely that it's almost impossible to help them. They may not even react
> to your advice the way you'd like them to. But that's life.
>
> I adhere to the old saying: Don't do to others what you don't want others
> to do to you. Personally I don't want to be yelled at (especially in the
> presence of others), so I try to always be polite. Does that make me a dull
> person? Maybe, but I like it that way. :-)
>
> But everybody is different and if you as you say "will reserve the right
> to highly and sometimes loudly disagree with the solution - in this case
> the technology." and this is how you express that disagreement that's
> perfecly fine with me. It's just that it gives me curly toes and I hate
> those. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Kaj
>
> PS. Det glæder mig, at du allerede er berygtet og fuldt ud anerkender det.
> Jeg var bange for at jeg havde givet dig et nyt stempel. :-)
>
>
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] På vegne af Henrik Rützou
> Sendt: 25. april 2012 20:13
> Til: HTTPAPI and FTPAPI Projects
> Emne: Re: Apache configuration
>
> Kaj Julius,
>
> I don't take it personal, but I (among many others) has used tons of hours
> not only developing
> software for free but also trying to help others in various sites during
> the last 10 years.
>
> >From time to time people come into list like this and demands answers in a
> split second (I'm
> NOT saying Vince did that) other times questions are asked with so little
> information that it
> is impossible to make a serious answer and counter questions are asked.
>
> When things then develops into "I leave this worthless list" (again this
> wasn't Vince or the
> exact words) it is in my opinion a general inslut to people that just
> want's to help others,
> because helping others must be based on collaboration and not demands from
> the requestor
> - in other words, it is a two way street.
>
> I will always fight for people like Scott and others in the sence of what
> he/they are doing
> (helping others), but I will also reserve the right to highly and
> sometimes loudly disagree
> with the solution - in this case the technology.
>
> You may find me notoriously (som er almindelig kendt - sorry dane to
> dane);,
> but better notoriously that forgotten ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Julius Kaj <Kaj.Julius@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Well, now you've met the notorious Mr. Henrik Rützou! He's not really a
> > bad guy and will help, he's just... well, a lot of words comes to mind.
> > Suffice it to say that he's quick on the trigger and no diplomat! He
> often
> > rubs people the wrong way. A salesman he's not! :-)
> > Don't take it personal.
> >
> >
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] På vegne af Selders, Vince E
> > Sendt: 25. april 2012 13:51
> > Til: HTTPAPI and FTPAPI Projects
> > Emne: RE: Apache configuration
> >
> > I've listened, I've explained, I've apologized. When I get to a point
> > where I have my server configured, I will attempt to move forward with
> the
> > project. If, at that time, I am still having trouble, I will post. I do
> > not believe there IS a problem with the HTTPAPI code. The errant
> condition
> > results in a HTTP 500 error which indicates a server side issue. I
> stated
> > from the beginning that I just want to make certain that the web service
> > end (on Apache server) is correct. I realize this is not the correct
> list
> > for my concern.
> >
> > v
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henrik Rützou
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 14:34
> > To: HTTPAPI and FTPAPI Projects
> > Subject: Re: Apache configuration
> >
> > good greif,
> >
> > why don't you listen and why don't you post the requested information
> when
> > some of the worlds best programmers like Scott want's to help you ?
> >
> > I just don't understand !
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Selders, Vince E <
> > VESelders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the info. I probably will drop this like a hot potato. I
> > > don't have the authorities I need, the intelligence to ask questions,
> > > or the patience (anymore)
> > >
> > > My admins want me to sit with them to explain what to set up, etc.
> > > However, without having the authorities (*IOSYSCFG) I have no idea
> > > what screens are going to pop up. So each step will be painful ,
> > > resulting in me walking back across the street to my cubicle, research
> > > what is needed next, and so on and so forth. I guess some shops just
> > > aren't coder-friendly, and this is one.
> > >
> > > v-out
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > > ftpapi-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:47
> > > To: HTTPAPI and FTPAPI Projects
> > > Subject: Re: Apache configuration
> > >
> > > Hi Vince,
> > >
> > > >
> > > > All that I am trying to get to (at this point) is how to configure
> > > > apache to provide a place for me to build a web service with
> > > > HTTPAPI.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm not certain whether you understand this already, so I'll say it
> > > just to make sure we're on the same page: HTTPAPI cannot be used to
> > > provide a web service.
> > >
> > > HTTPAPI is a client-side tool. It can be used to _call_ a web service
> > > that's provided by another tool (such as Apache, IWS, Tomcat,
> > > WebSphere, IIS, etc)
> > >
> > > If you use a traditional web site as an analogy, HTTPAPI takes the
> > > role of the "web browser". Apache takes the role of the "web server."
> > >
> > > That said, you'd never set up a web service (or web site) without
> > > testing it. So you might use HTTPAPI for calling/testing your web
> > > service (I know that I do!)
> > >
> > > > I know that there is a file somewhere in which some entry goes into
> > > > to determine a port for the server. The fact is, rambling on as I
> > > > am I've begun to recall some of this and will pursue it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Apache configuration files normally live in:
> > > /www/your-instance-name/conf/httpd.conf
> > >
> > > however, the proper way to edit them is with the IBM HTTP *ADMIN tool.
> > > You aren't supposed to change these files by hand.
> > >
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> > --
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> > Henrik Rützou
> >
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