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Re: AS2 standard



   Hi Scott,
   in Europe we have a lot af small and medium size business that dosn't
   require
   certification - but only want's to shift from FTP and/or Mailbased
   more or less properitare
   communication to HTTP AS2 standard based communication.
   These companies will communicate between each other directly - and if
   they want or need
   to make their AS2 communication "certified" they just reroute their
   AS2 communication through
   a service provider with Drummon certified software for these business
   partners and here the
   service provider most likely already will be a trusted partner to
   these big business partners.
   Here is an example:
   http://www.gxs.com/products/global_messaging/AS2_products.htm
   I have been talking to a danish service providor - and they have no
   problem in connecting
   to an iSeries (actually they use iSeries themselve´s).
   I see the AS2 solution as three different tings:
   1. HTTPS configuration with certificates - that's an iSeries os/5
   issue
   2. HTTP AS2 mime communication - thats a HTTPapi issue (must be very
   like a web-service)
   3. The actual EDI content - thats' a normal application issue
   So in my opinion HTTPapi with AS2 capabilities would not be wasted
   work but indeed a
   usefull feature.
   Regards
   Henrik

   Scott Klement <sk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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   24-08-2007 18:59

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   Re: AS2 standard

   I started looking into AS2 a while back.  The reason it appealed to me
   is that EDI vendors are charging large sums (from US $7000 - US
   $20000)
   just to add an HTTP (AS2) module to their EDI software.  That seems
   absurd, especially since I'm the author of an existing open source
   HTTP
   tool.
   There's an open standard for AS2 maintained by the IETF (just like
   other
   Internet standards):
   http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4130.txt
   But there's a big problem!  The open standards tell you what needs to
   be
   done, and they say that anyone can do it -- but all of the people who
   require AS2 (including 1SYNC, WalMart, etc) *require* you to be
   certified with the Drummond Group.  And Drummond charges more than USD
   $80000 for certification, making it impractical for an open source.
   Granted, according to the internet standards, the certification is not
   manditory... but since all of the big players MAKE it manditory, it
   doesn't matter.  You get certified, or they don't do business with
   you.
   So I gave up on making my own AS2, even at $7000, it's cheaper to buy
   than build.
   hr@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
   >    Hi,
   >    has anybody any knowledge of how to transfer EDI data via AS2
   HTTPS
   >    standard ?
   >    rgds
   >    Henrik
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